Subject Choice
And
The Leaving Certificate
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A Time to Choose…
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Remember
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Three things are important
when choosing a subject:
1. Aptitude
2. Interest
&
3. Ability
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National Framework Of
qualifications
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The framework is a structure of
levels, designed to bring an
increased clarity to the meaning of
each type of qualification, allowing
qualifications to be compared easily
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The framework comprises TEN
levels
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Post-Leaving Certificate
Qualifications
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PLC
Higher Certificate
Diploma
Ordinary Degree
Honours Degree
Postgraduate Diploma
Masters
Doctorate
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National Framework of
Qualifications
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Higher Certificate
(2yrs)
Degrees(3/4yrs)
Masters/Post-Grad
Diploma
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Level 6
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Ordinary (Level 7)
Honours (Level8)
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Level 9
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Level 10
Doctorate
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Grading System Changes in
Senior Cycle
Junior Certificate
Grade %
 A
85-100
 B
70-84
 C
55-69
 D
40-54
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Leaving Certificate
Grade %
 A1 90-100
 A2 85-89
 B1 80-84
 B2 75-79
 B3 70-74
 C1 65-69
 C2 60-64
 C3 55-59
 D1 50-54
 D2 45-49
 D3 40-44
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Universities
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Degrees Honours
Level 8
For all Level 8
Degrees at Trinity
College
3HC3 + 3
additional subjects
Minimum Entry Qualification
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2HC3 and passes in
four additional
Subjects
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Different universities
have different entry
college requirements
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Colleges of NUI
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UCD
UCC
NUI Maynooth
NUI Galway
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National University of Ireland
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Passes in
Irish
 English
 Mathematics
 Second Language
And two additional subjects
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Trinity College, Dublin
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3HC3 and 3 passes which must
include
 English
 Mathematics
 A Second Language
 And three additional Subjects
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Dublin City University
University of Limerick
& the Institutes of Technology
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2HC3 and four passes to
include
 English/Irish
 Mathematics
 And four additional subjects
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Ordinary Degrees Level 7
& Higher Certificate Level 6
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Institutes of Technology
including Dublin Institute of
Technology
Trinity College:
 Dental Nursing – Level 6
 Dental Hygiene- Level 7
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Minimum Entry Requirement
For Level 6 & 7 are
5 Passes to include: For most
courses
 Irish
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or English
 Mathematics
And three additional subjects
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Planning on going to College..
3
Students must satisfy
requirements in
order to obtain a place on a third level
course
1. College Requirement
2. Faculty requirement
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Having met both the College &
Faculty Requirement Candidates
are Deemed to be Suitably
Qualified
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Places Are then awarded on
Merit
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All Subjects are Equal
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In terms of entry to third level
colleges
Almost all subjects count equally
in terms of points
For Example an A in Art is worth
the same points as an A in
Physics, for engineering!
One might be more useful but
they both score the same
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Why seven subjects?
CAO (Central Application Office)
 Award points based on the
 best SIX subjects
 The Seventh subject can be a safety
net
&
 Timetable is structured on all
students studying seven subjects
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Why Irish, English, Maths and a
Language?
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The NUI (National University of
Ireland) has an specific requirement
that each student must have a
minimum 2HC3 and four additional
passes.
They must have passes in Irish,
English, Mathematics and a foreign
language (except for Science/
engineering / Ag Science courses)
Therefore, Loreto College, offer
these subjects as Core
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Core Subjects
All students will study the
following core subjects
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Irish
English
Mathematics and
French or German
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In addition they must choose 3 subjects
from the following list
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Geography
History
Spanish
Design &
Communication
Graphics
Home
Economics
Art
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Music
Biology
Chemistry
Physics
Accounting
Business
Religious
Education
Subjects are grouped as
follows:
Languages
French (Core) &German (Core)
 Spanish
Students must have studied a language for Junior
Certificate if they wish to study it for the Leaving
Certificate.
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Science Group
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Physics
Chemistry
Biology
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Business Studies Group
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Accounting
Business
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Applied Science Group
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Design & Communication
Graphics
Home Economics
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Social Studies Group
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History
Geography
Religious
Education
Music
Art
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Science Requirement
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Most colleges requiring a
science subject only require one
Trinity College, UCC and DIT
have specific requirements
Physiotherapy and Pharmacy in
TCD need two science subjects
TCD Pharmacy HC3 Chemistry
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Pharmacy
UCC & TCD
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HC3 Chemistry & HC in one
other Science Subject
RCSI
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Pharmacy HB3 in A Science
Subject
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Engineering Level 8
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HC3 Mathematics
UCD
A Science Subject Preferably
Physics or Chemistry
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Closing Doors
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Not choosing a science subject
can close doors at this stage.
Nursing requires a science
subject
Find out the specific
requirements needed for your
area of interest.
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Qualifax – www.qualifax.ie
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Common Questions?
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Accounting
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Do I need to study Accounting in
order to be an Accountant?
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Languages
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Do I Need to have previously
studied Spanish to take it in
College?
No. Italian, Japanese, Polish &
Russian can all be taken at
beginners level
A minimum level is required for
most other language courses
For example; Business and
French in DCU requires HC3 in
French.
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Architect
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Do I need
Technical
drawing to study
Architecture?
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A laboratory
Science Subject
is required for
UCD
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Remember
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Three things are important
when choosing a subject:
1. Aptitude
2. Interest
&
3. Ability
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But most importantly….
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Choose subjects that you
ENJOY
If the PLEASURE is there the
POINTS will come
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What should I do next?
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Check out college Prospectuses
or job descriptions before
making your choice.
Visit relevant websites
www.cao.ie
www.qualifax.ie
www.loretoswords.ie Careers
link to all relevant websites
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